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What to wear to a wedding, Victorian style? Fashion advice from the Victorians etiquette books
I'm answering YOUR fashion questions about what to wear to a wedding, wedding traditions, white gowns and wedding dress history-- with fashion advice from the Victorians etiquette books and fashion magazines. Visit birchliving.com/SnappyDragon and get 25% off your Birch mattress plus two free Eco-Rest pillows for a limited time during their 4th of July Sale.
Wedding season brings fashion questions : is wearing a white dress to a wedding ever okay? Did Queen Victoria really popularize the white dress? Where did all of these wedding superstitions and traditions about fashion come from? Turns out, fashion advice from the Victorians is still very useful, especially when it comes to the origin of wedding traditions. Turns out, back in Victorian times, the bride wasn't the only one allowed to wear white-- and this is only one of the fun wedding facts I learned doing this dress history research.
I got a ton of questions about what to wear to a wedding, and about wearing any amount of white in your dress. Unlike today, not only was wearing white to a wedding okay in Victorian times, it was encouraged if you were a bridesmaid or a newlywed! Victorian brides were expected to wear their wedding gown to all formal events for a year after getting married, including a formal wedding ceremony for someone else. It was the wedding flowers that were the most important indicator of who was the bride, rather than the veil or the white gown.
And for much of Victorian history, white dresses were not automatically part of bridal traditions! Queen Victoria did wear a white dress, and while white was one of many popular colors for wedding dresses, Victoria's white gown did make them the ideal. But many Victorian brides preferred other colors, because they were more affordable so they could continue to wear their wedding dress to more events. The history of weddings worldwide doesn't limit the bride to white, either-- red and even black are the traditional color for brides in different regions.
I hope having these wedding traditions explained and your Victorian style wedding questions answered helps! Whether you need wedding ideas for planning your own, or are wondering what to wear to a wedding, you have plenty of advice to consider and make your own choice from. The most important thing is celebrating your friends who are getting married. Wedding superstitions and traditions are a great way to do that, as long as they aren't used to get in the way of celebrating love.
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  • @buttergurls6401
    @buttergurls6401 18 хвилин тому

    I was not too long ago telling my girls on where it came from

  • @Amy_the_Lizard
    @Amy_the_Lizard 43 хвилини тому

    For what it's worth, a close friend of mine has said for years that she's going to show up to my wedding in cosplay. I told her to go for it.

  • @moonbasket
    @moonbasket 45 хвилин тому

    ❤❤❤ great video

  • @Cryptid_Crow
    @Cryptid_Crow Годину тому

    How fun to look back on things like this. At my wedding, I wore all black. The Husbear wore black. Nearly all of guests wore all black. I didn't even know that it was a faux pas to wear black to a wedding until so many guests were asking me if it was okay. Regarding my wedding party, I told them the dress code was, and I quote, "I don't give a heck what you wear, so long as it's all black. Wear a bathrobe for all I care. I just want you comfy, happy, and in black." 🤣

  • @amandajingleheimerschmidt3050
    @amandajingleheimerschmidt3050 Годину тому

    I went to a wedding about 15 years ago, and the redheaded bride wore a champagne silk satin dress: It was an absolutely exquisite combination 🤗

  • @beatriceotter8718
    @beatriceotter8718 Годину тому

    But on the question of "should you be more formal than the bride and bridegroom" I remember watching some of the TV specials in the leadup to William and Kate's wedding, and one of them followed "an ordinary wedding guest" (a shopkeeper from Kate's hometown) as he and his wife got their wedding outfits. They're ethnically Indian, so she wore a sari, but the husband went to a bespoke tailor on Saville Row to get a suit made. They talked about how William and Kate had requested the guests NOT wear morning dress (because they thought it was old-fashioned and stuffy), but the shopkeeper was going to wear a morning suit anyway. Because it's a *Royal Wedding* and that is what is *appropriate*. You can't just go to a royal wedding in a regular suit! And the tailor heartily endorsed this.

  • @beatriceotter8718
    @beatriceotter8718 Годину тому

    My family is from Norway, and the 19th Century was the rise of the folk costume as A Thing Of National Pride in Scandinavia. Many of those folk costumes are black (or other dark color) with embroidery. All are based on late-18th Century clothes with small regional variations. I would bet a great deal that that's what was going on.

  • @snoodledumpling4486
    @snoodledumpling4486 2 години тому

    I have nothing to contribute to this conversation but I shall comment to feed the algorithmic machine. All hail the algorithm.

  • @Scribe-cd5xb
    @Scribe-cd5xb 3 години тому

    i would avoid white, black, and scarlet.

  • @kirstenpaff8946
    @kirstenpaff8946 3 години тому

    Bridal costumes in European folk costume can get pretty wild. I went to a folk costume museum in Serbia last year and some of the bridal outfits were covered in coins or involved insanely elaborate headdresses.

  • @kirstenpaff8946
    @kirstenpaff8946 3 години тому

    The best part about Jewish weddings is the dancing. Nobody expects you to be good, just to get out on the dance floor and have fun.

  • @Lady_dromeda
    @Lady_dromeda 3 години тому

    I’m planning on making my wedding dress, and intend to be able to wear it for formal events afterward. I’m thinking of a green dress

  • @daisukidatotoro
    @daisukidatotoro 4 години тому

    My husband has a book with photos of his ancestors from about 1890 when they came over from Norway and settled in the American Midwest. As the men got married, each of their brides wore the exact same purple gown initially belonging to the husbands' sister (photos are sepia, but a family member kept a journal) that was temporarily altered for her. So there's a decade's worth of photos from 8 different weddings where there's different couples, same dress.

  • @BUY_YOUTUB_VIEWS_768
    @BUY_YOUTUB_VIEWS_768 4 години тому

    Loved it!

  • @karengrohs4942
    @karengrohs4942 4 години тому

    In the picture taken of my grandparents at their wedding in 1909, my grandmother and her attendant are both wearing what look like Edwardian white dresses. It was a Lutheran wedding. Both my grandparents were first generation Americans from Sweden.

  • @_gobi_the_goat_8699
    @_gobi_the_goat_8699 4 години тому

    I lived with out running water for 2 years and it FUCKING Sucked ass. I had to carry two 5 Gallon jugs through the woods to my neighbour house to feel them up with his Watering hose.

  • @ushere5791
    @ushere5791 4 години тому

    this was fun--tyvm!!

  • @lilykatmoon4508
    @lilykatmoon4508 4 години тому

    The last wedding I attended was for my nephew and his husband. They got married on Halloween, and encouraged guests to come in costume. I had made a forest green 13th century kirtle and fashioned a veil out of linen leftover from making the shift. I spent all evening saying , no, I’m a medieval lady, not a nun, lol. I’ve always been curious about the custom of breaking a glass in Jewish weddings. I’m not sure if that’s a thing only in some sects or a standard thing. If you have any information on that or a reliable place to look for the answer, I’d love to know. Have fun at the wedding! It’s been my experience that queer weddings are such a fun and joyous celebration of newly gained rights. Wishing the couple all the joy and happiness!

  • @hesperheart6622
    @hesperheart6622 5 годин тому

    This one was clever and entertaining

  • @gottathinkupanewone
    @gottathinkupanewone 5 годин тому

    Don't wear white. Don't propose at the reception. Do not announce your pregnancy.

  • @missvioletnightchild2515
    @missvioletnightchild2515 5 годин тому

    My mother-in-law wore a white linen shift dress with a floral border to my wedding. Even though I was a small wedding (35 guests), it was *very* obvious she wasn't the bride! I guess the no-white rule depends on the level of formality expected of the guests - if it's going to be very fancy, a long white dress can easily be mistaken for a wedding dress so it's best avoided. Otherwise I don't think it matters!

  • @catherinejustcatherine1778
    @catherinejustcatherine1778 5 годин тому

    As for curiosities aboutother Victorian fashion, I think maybe you have videos on all of them? Mourning attire, duration. Accessories & other protocols Esp. Black new or dyed Was (lack ofl comfort a part of mourning Hair jewelry Other memorial practices related to fashion, or fashion-tangential Common/lower class fancier clothes/fashion advice for "dressing up" when no nice clothes are available Costumes & accessories worn to costume balls

  • @devh6168
    @devh6168 5 годин тому

    I got married in jeans and my favorite black blouse! My first wedding my bridesmaids wore black.... I am decidedly not one for tradition 😂

  • @elainagranse8170
    @elainagranse8170 5 годин тому

    A lot of the instances I have come across regarding colors that shouldn't be worn, are rules for A holes who are going to show up in white to try and upstage the bride, or black funeral attire to show they are morning the marriage. A case of crazy is going to crazy but at least every else can know they are crazy.

  • @Ben-kv7wr
    @Ben-kv7wr 6 годин тому

    Not to flex but the only weddings I’ve been to as an adult were gay

  • @spunkysparks1779
    @spunkysparks1779 6 годин тому

    I'm lucky I wash my hair once a week.

  • @carlylewis7088
    @carlylewis7088 6 годин тому

    I think rewearing your wedding dress is a great idea

  • @amberdaze7892
    @amberdaze7892 6 годин тому

    I'm also going to my first wedding (for my cousin) in a few weeks. i have my outfit figured out (sans finalizing accessories), but the whole social etiquette has been stressful for my autistic ass lol. my wedding will 100% not be like this i will be telling everyone to dress like it's a ren faire

  • @bethknapp4935
    @bethknapp4935 6 годин тому

    Ive always followed the "Dont wear white" and it's never been an issue. I mean, it's one day, one party. It really shouldn't be a problem to avoid one color for one day. Why go out of your way to cause ripples on someone elses day.

  • @interlocution6619
    @interlocution6619 6 годин тому

    I would add that white - being harder and more expensive to maintain in clean condition, would have been more easily available to the upper classes. Therefore, though I don't think I have heard anyone say it; I do believe that a white gown in general would not have been popular with the lower classes, as they would not likely have had the time and money for proper care of a white gown to be worn several times, needing to be cleaned between uses. Victorian and pre-Victorian wedding dresses were many different colors. My great grandmother's (in the late 1800's) was a grey-ish steel blue. I have seen pictures of brides in blues, pinks, and even reds for their wedding day. The color of the dress was far less important than the flowers. Also, there is is symbolism assigned to the other dress colors as well.

  • @astrothsknot
    @astrothsknot 6 годин тому

    Nobody cares about white at a UK wedding. They care more about not wearing black, because that means you hate the bride. some wedding traditions are stupid. It's a bloody dress.

  • @HarleyQuinn62
    @HarleyQuinn62 7 годин тому

    Pretty much all of my wedding attire knowledge (outside of wedding dresses themselves) comes from reddit's Am I the Asshole posts, and my fun "fact" is that apparently, if you were red (I'm assuming a bright red) to a wedding as a female presenting person, it means that you slept with the groom before. That may be more of a southern thing. No one said anything when I wore a red polka dot dress to my cousin's wedding.

    • @SnappyDragon
      @SnappyDragon 6 годин тому

      I. I just. Why??? At this point I feel like there's got to be a superstition somewhere about wearing just about every color to a wedding, and none of them are "I am happy for the spouses and wish them well".

  • @miaththered
    @miaththered 7 годин тому

    White became the color because of monarchist propaganda, gotcha.

  • @BYBabbra
    @BYBabbra 7 годин тому

    Very infirmative, thank you. What about the topic of gender bias clothing, i.e. an event where the wearer is attired in clothing suppossedly for the opposite gender or has aspects of clothing for the opposite gender. Such as a wedding where the men attending wish to wear dresses and the women wearing suits. Or any other formal event that requires the guests to be fittingly attired. Hope that makes sence.

    • @SnappyDragon
      @SnappyDragon 6 годин тому

      I don't tend to mess with gender much in my personal fashion, so I'm unsure if I'm the person to make that video-- but I did have a great time doing a video about the history of skirts as menswear back in April!

  • @pippaseaspirit4415
    @pippaseaspirit4415 7 годин тому

    I remember hearing that, although blue had been used as a symbol of purity in earlier times, Victoria decided against it as blue (as a symbol of purity) was the colour most commonly associated with pictures of the Virgin Mary, and she didn’t want to be seen as a Catholic sympathiser. Red (the colour of life and fertility) had also often been worn at wedding, but Victoria had worn red for her coronation, and wanted her wedding to be seen as a union between man and wife, not Queen and subject. She chose white because it held no symbolism at all, so couldn’t be misconstrued. After the royal wedding, all the brides wanted to wear white because that was what the Queen had worn.

    • @SnappyDragon
      @SnappyDragon 6 годин тому

      She was definitely making a really strong statement about the nature of her marriage!

  • @callmethecommentcountess9329
    @callmethecommentcountess9329 8 годин тому

    Good for you girl

  • @AllTheHappySquirrels
    @AllTheHappySquirrels 8 годин тому

    We had a hike-in wedding and now I never want to attend another fancy dress wedding again. No pomp, just comfy clothes, good times with friends, and all the dogs and kids. 12/10, would recommend 😄

    • @SnappyDragon
      @SnappyDragon 7 годин тому

      I do really love "unconventional" weddings like that. I'd much rather go to a ceremony and party that reflects who the spouses are and what matters to them, than something they're "supposed" to do.

  • @sarahwatts7152
    @sarahwatts7152 8 годин тому

    I think the white dress she held up gets even more of a free pass because most women get married in floor length dresses made of nonpatterned fabric. But also it's a gay wedding so who cares? It looks cute!

    • @SnappyDragon
      @SnappyDragon 6 годин тому

      Oh yeah, I would have no concern for that dress being mistaken for a bridal dress-- it's part of why I used it as an example of how ridiculous this standard can be!

  • @sapientisessevolo4364
    @sapientisessevolo4364 8 годин тому

    3:35 her sense of time is getting messed up from all the time traveling

  • @rebeccaaugustine8628
    @rebeccaaugustine8628 8 годин тому

    Some years back (the 1980s) my immediate supervisor -- and friend -- was criticized for an outfit choice to wear to a wedding by her sister because it was white. I saw it and it was not entirely white, but blue and white striped! Needless to say, I was appalled by her sister's criticism especially when her sister was going to wear black lace! P.S.: Fast forward 40 years later -- I think that the black and white dress you pulled out is charming!

    • @SnappyDragon
      @SnappyDragon 7 годин тому

      Yeah that seems just incredibly unnecessary!

  • @datafoxy
    @datafoxy 8 годин тому

    It is very interesting that so much of what we think of as a wedding in the West is so recent.

    • @SnappyDragon
      @SnappyDragon 7 годин тому

      This seems to be the case with a lot of supposedly super-old institutions!

  • @kellyburds2991
    @kellyburds2991 8 годин тому

    My paternal grandmother wore a purple dress to her wedding. Family lore is divided on her reasoning when white was the standard by then (maternal gran wore white), with some thinking it was a Sunday Best situation, others thinking it had to do with some patriarchy-induced shame about bad things that happened to her as a very young child. My hope is that it was an intentional choice to spite her uptight family.

    • @SnappyDragon
      @SnappyDragon 7 годин тому

      I hope so too! I think everyone should be able to get married in the color that makes them feel most celebratory.

  • @margaretkaraba8161
    @margaretkaraba8161 8 годин тому

    I've been to a *LOT* of family weddings, christnings and funerals. I wear what I want (though I've never worn white except as a shirt/blouse). My family members have come to formal ceremonies wearing everything from suits and full formal gowns to tracksuits in bright pink (yes, I've seen that at a funeral). Aside from the variations of traditional wedding dresses, there have been brides dressed in pastel "office suits" (one in slacks) with a lacy or floral-topped facinator. One cousin and her bridesmaids wore camo and jeans. Most of my cousins don't care what you wear, they're just happy you showed up. Re: Black at a wedding. I've worn a black dress to a wedding (floral fabric). I went with my Grandmother and Aunt to pick a dress out, and I came out of the dressing room and they both said "That's lovely, you look charming."- and my Aunt was a stickler for proper etiquette.

    • @SnappyDragon
      @SnappyDragon 7 годин тому

      It sounds absolutely ideal to have a family that prioritizes what matters 💚

  • @margaretkaraba8161
    @margaretkaraba8161 8 годин тому

    A white wedding dress is lovely. My soft white wedding dress was going to be made of natural fabrics and in a style so it could be worn afterwards (I'm not spending that much money on a dress I wear only once) *and* it was going to be dyed a nice blue after the wedding. I also had plans to bead it so it would be "fancier" for the ceremony and I'd remove it after. Suffice it to say, I never got married (though it was close a couple times)..

    • @SnappyDragon
      @SnappyDragon 6 годин тому

      I love the idea of designing a wedding dress with the intention of wearing it again! The idea of only wearing something once makes me really sad for all the work that went into the dress.

  • @lamedumbjoker
    @lamedumbjoker 8 годин тому

    In Korea, it was traditional to wear red at the wedding. Those dresses were *heavily* embroidered so there was no way you could upstage a bride Fun fact: those particular dresses were only reserved for royalty, but peasant girls were allowed to wear them on their wedding day so they can be a princess for a day. There was a dedicated place where those wedding clothes were kept and you could go borrow them for your wedding ceremony

    • @SnappyDragon
      @SnappyDragon 7 годин тому

      I like the idea of them being communal like that!

  • @matildas3177
    @matildas3177 8 годин тому

    Yes, we scandinavians did wear black wedding dresses!! I haven't read too much on the topic, but it's still a tradition in some southern regions where traditional dress still lingers as festive wear.

    • @SnappyDragon
      @SnappyDragon 7 годин тому

      Oh good I'm glad I wasn't misinformed!

  • @linseyspolidoro5122
    @linseyspolidoro5122 9 годин тому

    To preface: I really love my mother in law even though she can sometimes be a lot, especially when she’s excited about something. So when I was planning my wedding I remember her being almost horrified that my mother was planning to wear a black dress. I couldn’t have cared less, especially since the dress suited my mom’s typical style. And I wanted her to feel comfortable in what she wore. The funniest part about it to me was that my mother in law wore this dark navy dress that I would have mistaken for black if she hadn’t had that reaction to my mother’s dress color.

    • @SnappyDragon
      @SnappyDragon 7 годин тому

      Ahahahaha. This is why we really need to stop making assumptions like this about what color people are wearing. If I want to ill-wish someone's wedding, I wouldn't wear black, I'd go full Maleficent and show up with a dragon or something 🤣

  • @troywillis4939
    @troywillis4939 9 годин тому

    The only thing I know about weddings is something I read in Emily Post from last century, A new bride wears white, if she gets married again she wears Ivory and a third time Turquoise. She doesn't say what comes next. I guess, Honey three times, just give up.

    • @SnappyDragon
      @SnappyDragon 7 годин тому

      Oh goodness, that's very specific!

  • @MischaMischief
    @MischaMischief 9 годин тому

    Fun fact: white has been traditional for Jewish weddings (particularly Ashkenazi) longer than for xtian weddings. But in Jewish weddings white doesn't have the creepy misogynist "I have an intact hymen" symbolism. Both the bride and groom wore white for the same reason we frequently wear white for Yom Kippur: to symbolize a blank sheet of parchment with all of our recorded sins erased. A couple's wedding day is supposed to be their own personal Yom Kippur, and Orthodox couples will still fast until after the ceremony, so that they go into their new life together with a blank slate, or blank parchment, with all of their sins from their individual lives erased.

    • @SnappyDragon
      @SnappyDragon 7 годин тому

      See I like this tradition so much better! . . . but I'm still not wearing white if I ever get married, I will look like a corpse. And cool as the Jewish corpse bride folk tale is, it's not my vibe 🤣

    • @KristiChan1
      @KristiChan1 6 годин тому

      Definitely a vast improvement over the christian one.

  • @ChrisFixedKitty
    @ChrisFixedKitty 9 годин тому

    As a former wedding photographer, my advice is to follow the cues of your invitation (the printing, any instructions, the type of venue), what folks involved in the wedding are saying about how the wedding party is approaching the wedding (my/our big day or joy-centered celebration), and just don't overdo it. Also, wear shoes that you can be in for the whole day and reception or have a change of shoes in the car for between the wedding and reception. Simple flats or sandals are fine if heels do not love your feet!

    • @SnappyDragon
      @SnappyDragon 7 годин тому

      Thankfully I know the couple getting married quite well-- they're basically planning a weekend of folk-dancing, so I'll pack three or four dance dresses and some comfy clothes for mornings. And dance shoes, of course!